jesus words: .
"the world will hate you just like it has hated me".
the jw's think this passage of scripture spoken by jesus applies to them in this present day.
Yup, Mr. flipper, it's like self-fulfilling prophecy, in a way. That's how it was when I was a wee young'un, anyway.
But I still don't think everyone hates them the way they believe they're hated, do you?
Their obnoxious behavior and attitudes do make a lot of people want to run away.
I think quite a few truly "spiritual" or ethical people really find themselves unable to hate them.
jesus words: .
"the world will hate you just like it has hated me".
the jw's think this passage of scripture spoken by jesus applies to them in this present day.
Maybe it depends on the political regimes the JWs confront, plus their own built-in paranoia. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, esp. if you're born-in.
I don't think all people hate the JWs; it's just that they (the JWs) believe it; so, if you point out failed prophecies or issues like pedophilia, they assume it's hate speech or hate mail, when all you're trying to do is tell them the real truth.
It's a pisser. No. Not everybody hates them; a lot of us feel sorry for them, even though we're mad about how we've been treated by them. Anger isn't the same as hatred.
And information isn't hate mail. But people with a persecution complex will call education about their cult "propaganda" or hate.
Edited to say: I think that's the reason I've just about given up on my JW family. I feel like a tear.
Anyway, I was brought up with the same persecution complex issues, too. It simply translated into intense social anxiety and major trust issues as an adult, even though I don't buy any of the Craptower ideas. I still struggle to feel safe with others period. No, I don't believe everybody hates me; it just feels that way sometimes.
are you obligated to forgive someone.
......if they do not ask for forgiveness.
......if they show no remorse for the transgression.
huh???? who better shut up?
i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.
i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.
this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.
Hi cloudblue and welcome. I'm a little confused. Are you josh or cloudblue? Anyway, welcome and congratulations to everybody who's out. It's a good thing. Sorry you're feeling so conflicted about it, though. I hope things improve for you.
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
Better to have 7 or 8 abortions than to have 7 or 8 unwanted children. If one is too impaired developmentally, emotionally, or financially to find an easier method of birth control 7 or 8 times (in a western country where other methods of contraception are more readily available), I don't want to imagine the lives of the children that would have come from that person.
are you careful about what you say?
do you make sure that you won't offend anyone?
do you care??
I agree, hillary step.
i heard this on the radio today and thought of everyone on the board who is going through a rough time right now.
i hope this brings a little peace into your life.. mat kearney - breath in breathe out.
tell me all of your doubts.
Thanks, Eryn. There are a lot of people going through a lot of stuff here. You are very thoughtful to take time to post for them, considering all that you are going through yourself.
i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.
she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.
now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".
Don't care to re-live my childhood.
pretty corny, but amusing:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uggleneevyc.
i want the death pony, says daughter's bf.. "oh!
Pretty corny, but amusing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGLENEEVYc
I want the Death Pony, says daughter's bf.
"OH! the poor thing can't hear . . ."
are you careful about what you say?
do you make sure that you won't offend anyone?
do you care??
I guess if you don't have any racist, sexist attitudes to begin with, you don't have to worry about whether or not you're politically correct.
